My personal overview of Mr Shorey’s book.. “the Window of the LORD’S RETURN”

Allow me to say that I am thankful for Men and Woman like Mr. Shorey. Those that have taken to heart a sincere study the WORD of GOD concerning END-TIMES.

Overall I think Mr Shorey’s book is a work to be read, especially for those that are hanging on the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE doctrine.   KEEPING in mind, that no ONE PERSON holds ALL the TRUTH, except JESUS CHRIST.  The PRE-TRIBULATION DOCTRINE is going to ultimately cause FAITH to fail,  suffering and torment to those that hang onto this false doctrine.

Mr Shorey and I have many areas where we are in TOTAL AGREEMENT. It is always good to find those that have seem to come into at least a partial agreement with you.

There are areas that I am sure the LORD has enlightened MR SHOREY that I am certain that I do not understand.

I have contacted Mr Shorey to open up a possible conversation with him concerning matters that I felt were important further revelations that he might consider.  I was only concerned about Matters that I FELT were important to the FAITH and preparation of the BODY.

Unfortunately Mr Shorey doesn't seems to have any desire or need to carry on these correspondents. As he concludes in his response back to me " that we should be content that we have so close".

I can only hope that he will set them aside for a SEASON and the HOLY SPIRIT will bring them to remembrance to him at some point in time.

I don't know, but seems to me, to consider some of the TRUTH'S  of REVELATION that I offered him, seemed to be VERY IMPORTANT to our understanding, safety and faith?

SO, to be FAIR to those who are reading from this site. AS I can see the counter rolling and I know many have look at the post concerning this book.  I felt it was important to Share my personal overview of his book.  “THE WINDOW OF THE LORD’S RETURN”.

I am going to do that by sharing the LETTER I wrote to MR SHOREY.  

You will have to discern the TRUTH for yourself concerning these matters as you search them out before the LORD.

COPY and PASTE of the LETTER as it was written to to MR SHOREY:

(I will NOT include his response to me publicly  because that is a matter of HIS PRIVACY)

(However I will ADD HERE that in Mr. Shorey's response back to me He said that He does believe the two-witness' show up BEFORE the RAPTURE)

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Dear Mr Shorey,

My name is Donna, I wrote you a couple of weeks ago seeking to get you to read on our Blog. “THE WOMAN OF REV 17”.

LINK: http://wecrymercylandon.blogspot.com/p/woman-of-revelations.html

Thank you for the recent email and LINK to your Site: TribulationTruth.com

I have read your book, “ The WINDOW OF the LORD’S RETURN”

I can see that you are a very sincere man for the LORD’S WORK and I do believe the LORD has opened your eyes on many truths. I am only hoping to encourage you and to perhaps offer some further insight to add to what you have already received from the LORD.

I apologize that it is so long, but I felt most of this was very important. You might want to print it out for future consideration.

I don’t intend to badger you on these things, I have confidence one way or the other that the HOLY SPIRIT will do HIS work on these matters.

"THE HOLY SPIRIT empowers what is "OF GOD" not what is OF MAN"

We are in so much agreement already, that I find that so refreshing.

You do a wonderful job proving there is NO PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE for which I am very grateful for. The SAINTS need to hear the TRUTH, that they don’t get discouraged or deceived.

However, we do have some pretty significant differences in our understanding too, and I would like to discuss those with you, if I may?

No one human-being has ALL of the understanding of TRUTH, and I certainly don’t understand it all. But that is why we share with one another, iron rubbing against iron.

Perhaps you wouldn’t mind considering these things as extra insight or revelation.

First, I am a PRE-WRATH RAPTURE believer. Not a POST WRATH RAPTURE believer. There some differences. PRE-WRATH means exactly what it says.

RAPTURED BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD is poured out upon the earth.

That is the PROMISE the LORD has given us.  "PRE-WRATH"

AMEN to all of these:  (Added … Mr. Shorey and I are in agreement on these things)

1. The Rapture of the church happens around the timing of the 144, 000

2. Michael is most likely the restrainer.

3. There is no pre-trib rapture, post-trib rapture would not fit within the PROMISE.

4. Very excited that you saw the difference between the “HEADS’ and the “HORNS” It is the “HEAD/nation or country” that was wounded.. AMEN. Admittedly when the NATION is wounded the HORN/leader suffers, but not in the way others perceive.

5. The rapture of the saints is around the end of the 6^th seal, before the 7^th seal.

6. The WRATH of GOD begins at the 1^st trumpet.

7. The 144,000 are sealed from God’s wrath

8. The REMNANT JEWS will “LOOK UP” at the time of the Rapture and see the ONE they have pierced.

These are the areas in which I sought to discuss with MR SHOREY.

HERE are a list of the SUBJECTS I asked MR SHOREY to discuss with me:

COPY AND PASTE FROM ORIGINAL LETTER TO MR SHOREY:

1. The timing of Satan’s KINGDOM, the GREAT TRIBULATION

2. The “COME OUT OF HER”

3. A REBUILD TEMPLE.

4. A few more discussion points on the 2 Witness.

5. And the MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF ALL.. “THE DAY OF THE LORD”

I can see that OUR timing is different because of WHERE we have put Satan’s KINGDOM at work in out TIME-LINES.

HERE is the MAIN DIFFERENCE IN OUR TIME LINE:

The TRIBULATION last 7 years, the “LAST” 3 1/2 is the GREAT TRIBULATION”.

Q. Why do you perceive that the MIDDLE of the TRIBULATION is at the 6 SEAL ?

There is a difference between TRIBULATION/satans time to rule and reign and THE DAY OF VENGENCE/ the DAY OF THE LORD..

Even you list these things on page 108 in your book, but yet you put the time of the little horns EXALTATION in the FIRST 3 1/2 years?

The TRIBULATION IS considered to last for 7 years, the first half is the TIME OF SORROWS, the second half the GREAT TRIBULATION.

Satan’s time of vengeance is for 3 ½ years, called “the GREAT TRIBULATION”

We both agree that it is the GREAT TRIBULATION, but I believe it occurs at the LAST 3 ½ years, with the KEY to this beginning at the “Abomination of Desolation”.

On your time line, you have put the Wars, Famines, AFTER satan is REVEALED, when MATT 24 states that these are “the beginning of sorrows.”

Matt 24: 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matt 24: 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Matt 24: 8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

THE ABOMINATION of DESOLATION is ‘after” the time of sorrows.

Matt 24: 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

THE TIMING OF THE LITTLE HORNS RULE:

The first 3 ½ years are the “time of sorrows’. The last 3 ½ years is the GREAT TRIBULATION.

COMPARE the scriptures of DANIEL with REVELATION 13:

SIDE NOTE: we know that the LITTLE HORN/ KING comes up “AFTER” the 10 “HEADS/NATIONS/ ruling kingdoms based on the scriptures in Daniel and Revelations.

DAN 7: 20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.

REV 13: 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

(the LITTLE HORN is not given the power to RULE until REV 5, where he is then REVEALED and given POWER to rule for the LAST 3 1/2 years)

DAN 7: 21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them.

REV 13: 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

REV 13: 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

2. COME OUT OF HER, the HARLOT.

WECRYMERCY-Landon

“THE WOMAN OF REVELATIONS 17”

The HARLOT has everything to do with the “ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION”.

I sought you out, because I wanted to SHARE the REVELATION on the HARLOT that the LORD gave me, so that you could include this in what you have already acknowledged as TRUTH.

In your book you bring up the “Come out of Her/ The HARLOT”. Basically it seems that you are not certain what it means.

I AGREE with you, it is not a call to heaven/rapture, but it is also not a call to just the JEWS either.

REV 17: 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth/ECKO over the kings of the earth.

REV 18: 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

HERE is a BASIC summary of the HARLOT’S WORK in END-TIMES:

Perhaps again you will consider reading out Blog, on (the “WOMEN of REV 17)

The HARLOT is the MOTHER OF ABOMINATIONS, she is the instrument that satan uses to persecute and kill the saints. She is the CITY, the seat of satan, in which the MARK is established and controlled from.

She is build in satan’s character, “ECKOING” meaning she is making the other NATIONS slaves to his character and subject to his policies and agenda. She will be an INSTRUMENT of the “New World Order”. The HARLOT’s little sister has always been with us, but during the time of SATAN’S KINGDOM she will have greater influence than she has ever had on the NATIONS of the WORLD and against the SAINTS.

The LORD did not leave us CLUELESS as to what the AOD is:

IE: All saints are included in this persecution rather Jew or gentle etc.

1. We disagree that the Rapture is at the MID-POINT, because that is only the beginning of Sorrows, SATAN’S rule and reign is at the end of the 3 ½ years. We (the saints) are not spared his vengeance.

2. The AOD begins at the MID-POINT, in which SATAN has his most POWERFUL time of rule and reign. The Saints are pursued, persecuted, and killed during the LAST 3 ½ years of that rule and reign. Those that survive will only survive by GOD’S GRACE in cutting it short for the sake of the ELECT.

REV 13: 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

Dan 9: 24 and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations..

This is the KEY points to understand what the final “AOD” means to the WORLD..

… he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

It is because of the “CONSUMMATION/COVENANT/AOD” with/into the PEOPLE, that the END IS DETERMINED/ DECREED.

It is THIS AOD that brings about the “END of DAYS” according to the DETERMINATION/DECREE OF GOD.

IT can be said this way:

“WHAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED by GOD, WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THIS FINAL ABOMINATION”

Q. WHY HAVE YOU DETERMINED THERE “MUST” be a REBUILD TEMPLE as a PREREQUISITE to the RAPTURE?

SIDENOTE; YES JERUSALEM does have a important place in end-time prophecy, however I do not believe a “TEMPLE’ is a prerequisite to the END-TIME RAPTURE.

“IS A REBUILD TEMPLE truly necessary to fulfill this prophecy?”.

Rarely do I use the NIV, but in this case the NIV interprets this better from the original language than the KJV. SOME NIV’s leave this part of the verse out.

IE: The LITTLE HORN, only needs to stand on a “WING of the TEMPLE” declaring himself to be GOD.

1 KINGS 6: 27 And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the [one] wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house.

Dan 9: 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'[fn] In the middle of the 'seven' [fn] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. AND ON A WING OF the TEMPLE, [fn] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. [fn]" [fn]

Or And one who causes desolation will come upon the wing of the abominable temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated city

The LITTLE HORN is No longer pretending to be a savior to man-kind, but now declaring he is the very CREATOR.

The WING is already present, as the wailing wall, where the “WINGS of the ANGELS TOUCHED”.

The ABOMINATION is about “LIVING SOULS” that have been made DESOLATE.

This “AOD” is the “OVERSPREAD of ABOMINATIONS” throughout the NATIONS and KINGS, to people by this leader, through policy and armies.

It has very little to do with a sacrifice in a temple being STOPPED.

IT has to do with the MARK OF THE BEAST, being CONSUMMATED, impregnated, giving birth through “LIVING VESSEL’s in which the HOLY SPIRIT should now DWELL” through the ‘buying and selling”.

1. This ABOMINATION, for those who take it separates the people from GOD.

2. Condemning them to the “LAKE OF FIRE”. Those making covenant with this BEAST/KINGDOM skip the “GREAT WHITE JUDGMENT THRONE” and are thrown directly into the lake of fire.

The PROPHET and THE BEAST/EMPIRE, are thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE, before the GREAT WHITE THRONE is even set up.

Mark 13: 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Q. I would like to understand why or how you might determine the 2 WITNESS’ only show up AFTER the RAPTURE?

FACT: The 2 witness’ die around the 6^th trumpet, their ministry is for 3 ½ years. You can count the “WOES” to see the evidence of this.. REV 11: 14

This appears to have had a great deal of INFLUENCE on your decision to BELIEVE that the “WRATH of GOD” last 3 ½ years.

Am I misunderstanding this? Perhaps there was no connection at all, but that is what I gathered from your book.

Therefore it seems you have divided the SEALS and TRUMPETS into 3 ½ year increments???

Would you share your reasoning for this conclusion?

I would really like to understand.

In chapter 8 of your book, You share your understanding that the Anti-christ being revealed after the 10 nation confederation, REV 13, and yet you put the TWO WITNESS’ from REV 11, after all of this occurs.

I don’t understand why you pushed backwards REV 13 in chronological time line and put REV 11 after the RAPTURE?

REV 10: 10 JOHN “ATE” the PROPHECY and began to PROPHESY according to how the events would REVEALED.

(yes, I agree, he consistently returns the clock backwards and forwards in his sharing)

AND MOST IMPORTANT of ALL:

THE LORD ALONE SHALL BE EXALTED IN THAT DAY!!!

AND MY CONCLUSION:

IS 2: 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.

We will be present for MOST if not ALL of the “GREAT TRIBULATION” unless death comes to us first or the LORD cuts it short and the RAPTURE occurs.

JUST as YOU STATED to which I agree,

THE DAY OF THE LORD Is ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAPTURE.

SO I do not see how you can BACK up the DAY of the LORD right in the MIDDLE Of SATAN’S RULE and REIGN?

1. The “DAY OF THE LORD” is associated with the RAPTURE. We are “caught up” just before the LORD begins HIS WRATH upon the EARTH.

2. IN the “DAY OF THE LORD” only JESUS CHRIST IS EXALTED.

Satan will be brought down during this time, not exalted.

By proclaiming a MID-TRIB rapture you have put the “DAY OF THE LORD right in the middle of satan’s rule and reign and his exaltation.

The REVELATION that I offered to share with you was about the HARLOT.

She is the instrument of the “LITTLE HORNS/AC”. She is the city, seat of satan in which he establishes his mark and the MARK of the BEAST. She is ESTABLISHED when he/prophet builds his KINGDOM.. “bringing the image to life”.. is GIVING LIFE and BREATH to the IDEALS and AGENDA of SATAN, through an earthly manifestation of HIS KINGDOM, CITY, and MARK.

This is his time of RULE and REIGN, freely according to the LORD’S WILL.

But the DAY OF THE LORD, is when JESUS CHRIST will be EXALTED “ONLY”.

Many in the A/C KINGDOM/ satan’s kingdom will be running for their life during this time. He will NOT be exalted during this time.

The MARK of the BEAST is the “FINAL” abomination in which TIME will move forward to the END OF DAYS.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I don’t intend to argue with you, but I do believe these things are important in our understanding of end-times for the safety of the Body of Christ.

Blessings towards you, hope to hear from you again.

donna